——— HIGHLIGHTS ———
0:00:03 – Understanding Bias Through Origination Points (36 Seconds)
0:02:57 – Questioning Self-Worth Despite Success (94 Seconds)
0:10:40 – Overcoming Performance Anxiety and Expectations (151 Seconds)
0:15:23 – Childhood Experiences and Adult Imposter Syndrome (77 Seconds)
——— HIGHLIGHTS WITH TRANSCRIPT ———
Understanding Bias Through Origination Points | 0:00:03 – 0:00:39 (36 Seconds)
0:00:03 Bill De La Cruz
Hi everybody, you’re listening to the Finding the Origination Point podcast. The Origination Point is connected to bias awareness and bias deconstruction, and the Origination Point is the notion that all of our biases, implicit or explicit, have a point in time where they started, where we were given a narrative or had an experience with a small group of people that then we extrapolate to a larger group of people, and the reason why the Origination Point is so important is because that is the point of healing and
Questioning Self-Worth Despite Success | 0:02:57 – 0:04:31 (94 Seconds)
0:02:57 Edie Wienstien
So the reason I’m telling you all of this is despite that. There are times that I doubt my credibility and my worthiness to be even doing this.
0:03:10 Bill De La Cruz
Well, and that’s the topic of our conversation today. So I’m just going to start with a question that I’m curious about and we’ll just see where our conversation goes. So can you tell me about a time when you felt unsure of your abilities or qualifications, despite evidence of your success? And just when you told me all the people that you’ve interviewed before, I’m like wow, that’s quite successful. So let’s start there.
0:03:39 Edie Wienstien
Okay, well, I can, just because people your listeners weren’t privy to our conversation before. I can let you know that from 1988 to 1998, my husband and I published a magazine called Visions. Had to do with holistic health and wellness, and I was the interviewer, got to interview some amazing movers and shakers in the transformational fields everybody from Romdass to Bernie Siegel, jack Canfield, elizabeth Kubler Ross, dan Milman, ben and Jerry the ice cream guys they were fun Shirley McClain, so pretty much anybody that was, you know, louise Hay that was in the metaphysical new age holistic fields. Back then I was able to have a conversation with them, not in person, which would have been lovely, but over the phone. So despite all of that, I still question my ability.
Overcoming Performance Anxiety and Expectations | 0:10:40 – 0:13:11 (151 Seconds)
0:10:40 Edie Wienstien
I remembered back when I was 13 and I became a bat mitzvah and the Jewish tradition girls and boys have their barb at mitzvah and you have to memorize it’s called the Haftorah, which is a Torah portion, and you practice for like a year and even though I practiced so much out loud that my mother, who didn’t read Hebrew, could recite my Haftorah because I’m doing it over and over again and she said, when you were sitting there during the service ready to to chat the Haftorah, you looked, you’re eyeing the door like you were ready to bolt, so that kind of feeling like, okay, I’m on stage. I made sure I peed before I got on stage. I didn’t have my cough, thank goodness, my voice was strong. I had lasing just in case and I used one right before I went on and I remembered something that helped that this is a friendly audience. They wanted me to do well.
0:11:41 Bill De La Cruz
Right.
0:11:41 Edie Wienstien
They weren’t looking for me to mess up. They were looking for me to succeed, so that got me through it.
0:11:48 Bill De La Cruz
And that helps a lot and sometimes I know when I’m in situations of talking I don’t really know who the audience is and actually in some cases I know there’s people there who don’t want to be there Right, because they had to be there. And I’m still thinking, okay, how’s this going to land? Are they going to accept it, are they going to push back? And so it’s really interesting how our mind can just take complete control over our bodily functions, yeah, and just kind of take over. And so when you have these, when you had those expectations, did you at any point feel overwhelmed about, like that TEDx? I’m sure there were some. Even if they didn’t say it, you probably had some level of expectation that they expect me to do this and this and this, and so how do you handle that when you feel overwhelmed by those?
0:12:50 Edie Wienstien
Right, well, where? Part of where that comes from isn’t just my own expectations, but a feeling of I don’t want to let anybody down. They have faith in me. I don’t want to blow it, you know, yeah. So I took a look at that and I said once again you are not going to blow it. They, you know they. You wouldn’t have been given this chance if you didn’t have what it took.
Childhood Experiences and Adult Imposter Syndrome | 0:15:23 – 0:16:40 (77 Seconds)
0:15:23 Edie Wienstien
A through line in my life is I don’t want to let people down to believe in me.
0:15:28 Bill De La Cruz
Yeah, and it’s interesting how you can go all the way back to your childhood to pull up some of these adult experiences that you’re having, Because my my book that I shared with you about finding the origination point is rooted in the idea that a lot of what we experienced as adults goes back to what we experienced between birth and high school. And so that idea of like, even though they approved to me, I’m going to do whatever I can to maintain that approval, and so so it’s just interesting and and I think it’s something for our listeners to really think about is there’s a connection between whatever you’re experiencing as that imposter and some of the narratives or messages that either you were given or that you created growing up, and so so there’s a way to explore that that, I think, is important. I know it’s helped me a lot and even today, even when I know that I can do what I do, I know I can speak to the topic, there’s times when I’m heading out on stage and I’m like, okay, breathe, don’t like to be overwhelmed, you can do this.
